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boehner has been embarrassed. he could not get the vote of his own caucus, of his own conference to pass a benign piece of legislation, a piece of legislation that protected everybody up to a million dollars. i don't know how you get more embarrassed than that. now, i hope that these guys can get together, these men and women can get together and do something before january 1st. but i'd check those airplane logs if i were you. if they're really serious, they're going to say you're going to get the final word. >> and i'm creating this dynamic of making it difficult. john boehner was not embarrassed. the house works its will. to try to put it ins terms of being embarrassed, misses the whole point. >> and i remember that well because i had a school feed trip to the national zoo that was canceled because the government shut down. so you've robbed your young kids of access. thanks so much for coming on the program. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> up next, capital cliffhanger. behind the scenes in the fiscal cliff n
boehner has been embarrassed. he could not get the vote of his own caucus, of his own conference to pass a benign piece of legislation, a piece of legislation that protected everybody up to a million dollars. i don't know how you get more embarrassed than that. now, i hope that these guys can get together, these men and women can get together and do something before january 1st. but i'd check those airplane logs if i were you. if they're really serious, they're going to say you're going to get...
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diane: a rich we found out speaker of boehner did vote yes in favor of passing this bill. we have been talking about the politics involved than i wonder figmick cities here to vote yes on this, being that the bush tax cuts technically expire today so this is no longer a tax increase but typically a tax decrease. does that help? rich it really doos and when you look at the policy here, yesterday it would have been a tax increase but the sales job for republicans now is this is a tax cut of nearly $4 trillion over the next decade because at the stroke of midnight the federal government, the tax brackets referred to where they were during the clinton years. that's a broad-based increase with every american paying and increase -- tax the republicans feel they have extended or the 99% of the policy that democrats have derided and the reason we are so deep in debt and deficit is because of the bush tax cuts. they just voted to extend more than 99% of the bush tax cuts and to make them permanent. that is seen as a victory for number of republicans. we were talking to a number of
diane: a rich we found out speaker of boehner did vote yes in favor of passing this bill. we have been talking about the politics involved than i wonder figmick cities here to vote yes on this, being that the bush tax cuts technically expire today so this is no longer a tax increase but typically a tax decrease. does that help? rich it really doos and when you look at the policy here, yesterday it would have been a tax increase but the sales job for republicans now is this is a tax cut of...
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. >> how is john boehner going to get the votes. he couldn't get the votes for his plan b. >> a week ago we were closer than we have been before. >> do they presume the voters are that dumb? >> they passed it. >> they did it noing that they are unable to make deals on anything. >> how about complete chaos? >> there ought to be a new rule in congress. >> you cannot create anymore artificial crisis. >> tim geithner wrote a letter to congress. we are going to hit the debt ceiling. it never ends. >> happy new year's america. ♪ 29 and a half hours that is how long congress will have to avoid going over the fiscal curve on sunday night. >> if we go over the cliff, mr. president, the house of representatives as we speak with four days left after today with the first of the year, aren't here. i can't mamg they are out wherever they r and we are here trying to get something done. >> president obama called leaders last night and tomorrow afternoon we will meet with the speaker and mix mcconnel and harry reid to see if they can avoid going o
. >> how is john boehner going to get the votes. he couldn't get the votes for his plan b. >> a week ago we were closer than we have been before. >> do they presume the voters are that dumb? >> they passed it. >> they did it noing that they are unable to make deals on anything. >> how about complete chaos? >> there ought to be a new rule in congress. >> you cannot create anymore artificial crisis. >> tim geithner wrote a letter to congress....
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we received a statement from the speaker of the house, john boehner. i want to read this for you word for word coming from leadership on the senate agreement. the house will honor its commitment to sue the senate agreement if it is passed. decisions about whether the house will seek to except a measure will be made when house members and the american people of babel to review the legislation. we have been talking about the legislation but with rich edson standing by live once again to explain to us what is at stake and what is to be considered. rich: good evening, adam. the number of different items in state tuition ongoing as to when exactly the senate will pass up. see how much this thing cost, say they have enough votes to get this through although joe biden says he is confident, feels pretty good this vote will end up his way. the deal he negotiate with mitch mcconnell and basically preserves current tax rates for info mounts $450,000 per year for families and less individuals including investment income as well. so the other provisions of unemploy
we received a statement from the speaker of the house, john boehner. i want to read this for you word for word coming from leadership on the senate agreement. the house will honor its commitment to sue the senate agreement if it is passed. decisions about whether the house will seek to except a measure will be made when house members and the american people of babel to review the legislation. we have been talking about the legislation but with rich edson standing by live once again to explain...
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those who don't like boehner, don't love boehner, they love paul ryan. he was whipping plan b. so paul ryan, probably the most high-profile guy who could be a consensus candidate getz boehner. he's not running against barren. he's not even interesting. >> if the president get this through, and it i know it's a big if -- he has to know goes yags. >> you're always going to have to include john boehner. he's speaker of the house. i think you're making a fair point that the power of house republicans to drive the debate is being underquestioned right now. people are going to look to this experience as to how john bane err may or may not be able to drive this discussion. >> sam, on this kind of deal, there's always last-minute horse trading. things get thrown on the paper and the base finds out and gets upset. what gets him upset when he's trying to get it done by the end of the year. >> the likely thing that will get him peaked would be the tax rates. my guess is that in the process of trying to hammer out this deal it gets raised to somewhere around 400, maybe $500,000. i think th
those who don't like boehner, don't love boehner, they love paul ryan. he was whipping plan b. so paul ryan, probably the most high-profile guy who could be a consensus candidate getz boehner. he's not running against barren. he's not even interesting. >> if the president get this through, and it i know it's a big if -- he has to know goes yags. >> you're always going to have to include john boehner. he's speaker of the house. i think you're making a fair point that the power of...
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rich: the first offer we got after the election was house speaker john boehner saying we should do tax reform and spending and entitlement reform and 2013 should be the year for that. the regional framework the president speaker were working out including a mechanism to raise revenue through tax reform and to cut spending and entitlements through spending and entitlement reform next year. that mechanism never happen. you can set targets and the law and state tax will achieve $1 trillion in savings over 10 years and entitlement reform will achieve the same. they never reach that so that is up in the air right now. you do have a willingness from the white house also did old -- to do corporate tax reform. they have a proposal that would lower it to 20% and republicans are working on a bill that would lower corporate tax rates to 25%. there is more of a push among republicans to overhaul the entire tax bill so they have a victory here. they made permanent 99% of the bush tax rates but they want to overhaul the entire code for individuals and corporations. when you look at what congress is
rich: the first offer we got after the election was house speaker john boehner saying we should do tax reform and spending and entitlement reform and 2013 should be the year for that. the regional framework the president speaker were working out including a mechanism to raise revenue through tax reform and to cut spending and entitlements through spending and entitlement reform next year. that mechanism never happen. you can set targets and the law and state tax will achieve $1 trillion in...
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how does speaker boehner move forward as the meeting is breaking up? we have inside scoop from behind those closed doors. and perhaps a strategy, path way forward. we have a live interview with the vice chairman of the budget committee. he will join us on the other side of this break. [ male announcer ] this is sheldo whose long day setting up the news starts with arthritis pain and a choice. take tylenol or take aleve, the #1 recommended pain reliever by orthopedic doctors. just two aleve can keep pain away all day. back to the news. >> bret: this is a fox news alert. looking live at the house floor gaveled back in session. take vote that don't deal with the fiscal cliff legislation and counting heads semily to see where the votes are. for the different options. one is to amend the senate bill and send it back to the senate. the other one is to do a straight up-or-down vote on the senate bill. joining us now for inside perspective on the g.o.p. conference meeting that just broke up a few minutes ago. bring in the republican congressman scott garrett f
how does speaker boehner move forward as the meeting is breaking up? we have inside scoop from behind those closed doors. and perhaps a strategy, path way forward. we have a live interview with the vice chairman of the budget committee. he will join us on the other side of this break. [ male announcer ] this is sheldo whose long day setting up the news starts with arthritis pain and a choice. take tylenol or take aleve, the #1 recommended pain reliever by orthopedic doctors. just two aleve can...
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i consider myself a personal friend of john boehner and john boehner personally has been very helpful to me over the years. it pains me to say the fact is the dismissive attitude that was shown last night toward new york, new jersey and connecticut typifies i believe a strain in the republican party pip kn. i know this is not the place to discuss politics but that politics seeps over to a governmental decision that was made. >> peter king is angry at his own party over their lack of funding of sandy relief. and congressman barney frank joins me live on his last day on the job. what does he think about leaving behind perhaps the least productive congress ever? you don't want to miss all of that. for the first week... i'm like...yeah, ok... little did i know that one week later i wasn't smoking. [ male announcer ] along with support, chantix is proven to help people quit smoking. it reduces the urge to smoke. some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping chantix. if you notice a
i consider myself a personal friend of john boehner and john boehner personally has been very helpful to me over the years. it pains me to say the fact is the dismissive attitude that was shown last night toward new york, new jersey and connecticut typifies i believe a strain in the republican party pip kn. i know this is not the place to discuss politics but that politics seeps over to a governmental decision that was made. >> peter king is angry at his own party over their lack of...
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some democrats think that mitch mcconnell is ready to force john boehner's hand. we know the republicans are going to lose the fight of taxes because tax rates are going to go up for every -- the only question is how many people they go up for. so if you already know what the outcome is going to be, the question is how much punishment do they want to take? it is possible that they would wait after january 1. they could say we're going to cut taxes now instead of vote to allow them to go up. gwen: let's move on. because there's one more thing we want to go to. from iran to syria to libya to egypt to israeli, palestinian standoff over gaza, the obama administration's wishes have seldom been.raedpt >> we and the world haveed join in condemning the brutality of the assad regime. >> no one wants to determine what happened that night in benghazi more than the president and i do. >> and this administration has either been guilty of colossal incompetence or engaged in a coverup. >> a red line should be drawn right here. before iran completes the second stage of nuclear en
some democrats think that mitch mcconnell is ready to force john boehner's hand. we know the republicans are going to lose the fight of taxes because tax rates are going to go up for every -- the only question is how many people they go up for. so if you already know what the outcome is going to be, the question is how much punishment do they want to take? it is possible that they would wait after january 1. they could say we're going to cut taxes now instead of vote to allow them to go up....
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footing. >> what is boehner's game plan? does he even have one? ryan grim is washington bureau chief for "the huffington post," and glen johnson is politics editor for boston.com. i worked on the hill for years. you cover the hill and know it. that was a very personal shot from harry reid. is it accurate to say, open question, that speaker boehner is worried about staying speaker? >> yes. he's definitely -- i think he's not worried about his election on january 3rd, but that's not the end of it. you know, i think he's worried about his speakership every day he's speaker -- >> do you agree with that, he's worried he may be losing out or being thrown out of the speakership by his own party? >> for sure. he spent the first two years of his speakership looking over his shoulder as the camera shows of eric cantor right behind him ready -- >> but cantor is with him now, isn't he? hasn't his number two guy joined him? >> he's his number two guy and supporter, but he's the spiritual leader of the tea party caucus there, and that's t
footing. >> what is boehner's game plan? does he even have one? ryan grim is washington bureau chief for "the huffington post," and glen johnson is politics editor for boston.com. i worked on the hill for years. you cover the hill and know it. that was a very personal shot from harry reid. is it accurate to say, open question, that speaker boehner is worried about staying speaker? >> yes. he's definitely -- i think he's not worried about his election on january 3rd, but...
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could or could not do and the talks were focused between the president and speaker boehner. when he was unable to get enough votes for his idea to have the income tax threshold be at $1 mi million and when that did not work, he insisted that the senate begin to act. politically that is important, because they want to see how many democrats are on board and will all of them join in, and how many senate republicans and especially the more conservative members and members up for re-election in 2014 and how many of them would be prepared to go forward, and then that gives boehner more muscle to try to get enough of his republican members to goal along. in the house, they will need house democrats, and they will need republicans. so there is a mechanical part of this. there is a plit will cal arm wrestling part of this, and there is what will unfold over the next 24 hours in how can they reach a deal. sources in both parties are telling me that part of the sticking point right now is where to set the income threshold and what happens to estate taxes. speaker boehner is saying tha
could or could not do and the talks were focused between the president and speaker boehner. when he was unable to get enough votes for his idea to have the income tax threshold be at $1 mi million and when that did not work, he insisted that the senate begin to act. politically that is important, because they want to see how many democrats are on board and will all of them join in, and how many senate republicans and especially the more conservative members and members up for re-election in...
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john boehner wouldn't talk to us last night. i would say with the fiscal cliff and people in the party talking about spending he thought it was too much to put together but this is always separate. the part of leadership is to be able to distinguish and say this is not something part of ordinary spending. we have always historically stood with other regions. in 2005 within 60 days the congress gave -- excuse me, within ten days we gave $60 billion for katrina and that went over $100 billion. it's now nine weeks and congress has not appropriated one penny to people of new york, new jersey and connecticut. my community, the southern end of it was destroyed, homes are under water. then you go to congressman turner at breezy point. this is devastation. these are people without homes, without food, without shelter, living in trailers and pickup trucks. this is not the united states of america. >> and on that, governors cuomo and christie released a statement saying continued inaction by the house is inexcusable. >> i'm going to put u
john boehner wouldn't talk to us last night. i would say with the fiscal cliff and people in the party talking about spending he thought it was too much to put together but this is always separate. the part of leadership is to be able to distinguish and say this is not something part of ordinary spending. we have always historically stood with other regions. in 2005 within 60 days the congress gave -- excuse me, within ten days we gave $60 billion for katrina and that went over $100 billion....
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you know, it's part of what people find endearing about john boehner. you have also got to wonder if it's partly the exhaustion of what he has recently gone through and perhaps the hope that the next two years will go a little bit better for this new congress. >> well, good afternoon, alex. it is true that people often note the emotion that seems to come very easily for speaker john boehner. he will say that he is sort of embarrassed by it and that he can't really control it. the emotion just brings near the surface, and it does come out, because he says he takes all of these things very seriously, the responsibility you can the historic moment, what it means to be, as he says, a regular guy with a big job. so he knows that people make fun of him for that as well. so i think essencetive to it. but getting to know him day to day i it seems to be a very genuine emotion and i think because he has been speaker now for a couple of years, people are more accustomed to seeing it. i thought he was able to hold it in check quite a bit more today. he paused sever
you know, it's part of what people find endearing about john boehner. you have also got to wonder if it's partly the exhaustion of what he has recently gone through and perhaps the hope that the next two years will go a little bit better for this new congress. >> well, good afternoon, alex. it is true that people often note the emotion that seems to come very easily for speaker john boehner. he will say that he is sort of embarrassed by it and that he can't really control it. the emotion...
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down, boehner/reid couldn't get this done. we had to bring in joe biden to get this done. i'm not sure anybody else wants the job so i think the job is safe for boehner but i don't think this is something that really bodes well for his effectiveness, at least within the party's thought process zip think one of of t -- >> i think one of the win nerwi maria, joe biden. >> i completely agree, wolf. i think joe biden has done a spectacular job of bringing people together, but i will also say this is a win for senator mcconnell because he was part of that team that made this deal come together and he assured that the majority of republicans in the senate were going to support this deal. let's think about that. who knew that in this divided congress that we were going to be able to get a deal on the fiscal cliff where in the senate it was going to pass with the majority of republican support. and mitch mcconnell, my hat goes off to him because i don't think we expected that that was going to be the case. so i think vice president bi
down, boehner/reid couldn't get this done. we had to bring in joe biden to get this done. i'm not sure anybody else wants the job so i think the job is safe for boehner but i don't think this is something that really bodes well for his effectiveness, at least within the party's thought process zip think one of of t -- >> i think one of the win nerwi maria, joe biden. >> i completely agree, wolf. i think joe biden has done a spectacular job of bringing people together, but i will...
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needs the cooperation in a cent republican leader mitch mcconnell and speaker john boehner to john boehner and bringing any deal to the floor that is not likely to get in the republican members and they count on it to assure that they won't filibuster the deal. >> it seems like after the boehner plan b went down, republicans are sort of this washing their hands of this and president obama is void by the confidence that if we go over the cliff, perhaps treasury can avert the worst things off the bad and republicans will get the political blame for it. that's why we are not moving so quickly? >> the goal is now for him to sort out a deal. they have both consummate deal makers. if anyone can do it, they can. i don't get the sense of urgency that they are going to take all the blame for this. we are probably going to get close to this and take wall street on january 1st to see a connection here. >> as i was reading this morning, going off the fiscal cliff was a bungee jump. we go over and the markets collapse. it's amazing that's what we have to get to. >> here's what we know. washington only
needs the cooperation in a cent republican leader mitch mcconnell and speaker john boehner to john boehner and bringing any deal to the floor that is not likely to get in the republican members and they count on it to assure that they won't filibuster the deal. >> it seems like after the boehner plan b went down, republicans are sort of this washing their hands of this and president obama is void by the confidence that if we go over the cliff, perhaps treasury can avert the worst things...
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boehner said he wanted to abide by, speaker john boehner has seemed to throw that to the wayside. as i mentioned, supporting this deal himself. as opposed to the mood, it was funny, john boehner, eric cantor, mccarthy, they made this decision not to speak on the house floor about this deal tonight. who did we hear from? from nancy pelosi, taking a victory lap, which i think says a lot about how both sides feel about it. at the end of the day it is about the law of the land, and after all the twists and turns, folks on both sides are breathing a sigh of relief. tomorrow when they wake up, they will know the majority, they know the taxes will not go up. the financial markets i'm going to guess are going to react positively to this deal. there >>> this deal we have in place, while it makes permanent the tax issue that will be taken off the table for a long time, this is just the first of three with the big fights that will occur on capitol hill. the debt limit in early march, a government funding bill ahead of that. there is a question about the automatic spending cuts. the sequester
boehner said he wanted to abide by, speaker john boehner has seemed to throw that to the wayside. as i mentioned, supporting this deal himself. as opposed to the mood, it was funny, john boehner, eric cantor, mccarthy, they made this decision not to speak on the house floor about this deal tonight. who did we hear from? from nancy pelosi, taking a victory lap, which i think says a lot about how both sides feel about it. at the end of the day it is about the law of the land, and after all the...
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you'd have to work with speaker boehner. the president was trying to work out this grand bargain with speaker boehner. but when they couldn't get it done and it collapsed, it pitched over to the senate. when it became clear it had to be a senate deal, mitch mcconnell has this historic relationship with the vice president because they worked in the senate for so many years together. they just know each other. it's not like they're great friends and they don't go around and vacation together but they know how to get deals done together. so when he needed what they call a dance partner, knew what they needed to horse trade and make it happen, that's who he turned to. he's just become an exceptional resource in the white house for getting deals done on capitol hill. >> we've got an eye on that door as well. you're looking at the same thing to make sure if the president comes out, we're all going to stop talking. for the next three big things happening, the dealt ceiling, the sequester, which this bill pushes off for two months,
you'd have to work with speaker boehner. the president was trying to work out this grand bargain with speaker boehner. but when they couldn't get it done and it collapsed, it pitched over to the senate. when it became clear it had to be a senate deal, mitch mcconnell has this historic relationship with the vice president because they worked in the senate for so many years together. they just know each other. it's not like they're great friends and they don't go around and vacation together but...
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bachmann voted for boehner. this tells you how disorganized conservatives are in the end. two days after he proceeds over and endorses the massive tax increase going against basic republican principles. conservatives in the end make him speaker again. >> the caucus is in disarray. they didn't ban together in the fiscal cliff thing. the republicans have more leverage with the credit ceiling. you heard mitch mcconnell refer to it. it will depend if they use that leverage to whether they get together behind a common position. that will be john boehner's channel to deal with that. my gosh, i mean, i don't envy him as two more years as speaker but i don't know why he got re-elected. i don't think anybody else wanted the job. >> bret: former spea speaker dennis hastert has a rule named for him. majority of the majority, bringing forward a bill. don't bring forward a bill unless the majority of your own caucus supports that piece of legislation. talked about that going forward on brian kilmeade radio show this morning.
bachmann voted for boehner. this tells you how disorganized conservatives are in the end. two days after he proceeds over and endorses the massive tax increase going against basic republican principles. conservatives in the end make him speaker again. >> the caucus is in disarray. they didn't ban together in the fiscal cliff thing. the republicans have more leverage with the credit ceiling. you heard mitch mcconnell refer to it. it will depend if they use that leverage to whether they get...
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and here's house speaker boehner office responded. senator reid should talk less and legislate more. legislate more? what legislation has speaker boehner been working on while on vacation? while we're about to go over the cliff, the gop has been pointing fingers at the president. one gop aide says talks have failed because "the president made a strategic miscalculation and overreached. he picked a fight." picked a fight? sorry, that's not going to fly. the president has come to the table with numerous proposals. he isn't picking a fight. he's fighting for the american people. we all want a deal. but we will not give up our core principles. the president ran on families and has the american people on his side. that's why speaker boehner and mitch mcconnell are cracking up with the clock ticking. joining me now is form er pennsylvania governor ed rendell. jerry bernstein, senior fellow at the center and jonathan, opinion writer for "the washington post" and an msnbc kriblt tor. contributor. thank you all for coming on the show. governor
and here's house speaker boehner office responded. senator reid should talk less and legislate more. legislate more? what legislation has speaker boehner been working on while on vacation? while we're about to go over the cliff, the gop has been pointing fingers at the president. one gop aide says talks have failed because "the president made a strategic miscalculation and overreached. he picked a fight." picked a fight? sorry, that's not going to fly. the president has come to the...
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but two points i would say about boehner. i do think he is an impossible position, especially because he is basically a moderate and the tea party and the conservatives do not trust him answered has made mistakes. the plan b, the morning after bill, as we like to call it that was a debacle, something he caused and was unnecessary, created chaos and not helpful. mcconnell are had to step in the last minute and said let me handle this four, john boehner. he has sort of done the best with that circumstances. also made some missteps. i would say that there is some merit to the idea that someone who is actually from the right of the party or at least has trust from the right of the party could be in a better position to be more effective, just because they would have that base level of trust. right now the conservatives in the party are constantly looking and assuming that john boehner is going to sell them out. and that is not helpful to doing a good job, as much as anyone could do a good job as speaker right now h >> boehner has
but two points i would say about boehner. i do think he is an impossible position, especially because he is basically a moderate and the tea party and the conservatives do not trust him answered has made mistakes. the plan b, the morning after bill, as we like to call it that was a debacle, something he caused and was unnecessary, created chaos and not helpful. mcconnell are had to step in the last minute and said let me handle this four, john boehner. he has sort of done the best with that...
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i think that hurt them, boehner. i think that's why boehner is being controlled, unfortunately, by the right wing. i agree with bernie sanders. very sad. i believe that boehner's a good man and wants a deal done and impossible with these folks. >> the finger's not only pointed at the republicans and the tea party caucus but also to some democrats. here's one of your republican colleagues this morning. take a listen to what she said. >> sure. >> everything -- it's just about scoring political points and i know that the american people are tired of that. they're tired of all of us. i understand that. we just make -- used car sales men look good. that's the only group below us. we have to get our act together and prove to the american people that we can regain the trust that they once had in us and get the job done. >> yeah. the perception -- go ahead, please, congressman. looking at the can kicked down the road by both sides. >> let me be clear. she is a very good friend of mine and i understand her point of view. but
i think that hurt them, boehner. i think that's why boehner is being controlled, unfortunately, by the right wing. i agree with bernie sanders. very sad. i believe that boehner's a good man and wants a deal done and impossible with these folks. >> the finger's not only pointed at the republicans and the tea party caucus but also to some democrats. here's one of your republican colleagues this morning. take a listen to what she said. >> sure. >> everything -- it's just about...
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but at this point, it's up to john boehner to see how much support he has for the bill with or without amendments and whether he can move forward today or if it's going to be delayed. e we should find that out shortly. >> brianna keilar live for us at the white house, thank you. also we're going to keep an eye on washington today. we'll be live throughout the day to just see what the house plans to do. and then coming up we're going to get the pulse of the people too. back in a moment. >>> we're all keeping a close eye on the house today to see e what those house members decide to do about the fiscal cliff. the republican leaders there are expected to meet about 20 minutes or so. actually an hour and 20 minutes or so to go over their strategy for the day. that's when they will decide potentially if we're even going to have a house vote today on that plan that the senate approved early this morning. for you out late last night, it was late last night. 2:00 in the morning eastern time. going to keep you updated on the machinations of the house. in the meantime, since it's the first day o
but at this point, it's up to john boehner to see how much support he has for the bill with or without amendments and whether he can move forward today or if it's going to be delayed. e we should find that out shortly. >> brianna keilar live for us at the white house, thank you. also we're going to keep an eye on washington today. we'll be live throughout the day to just see what the house plans to do. and then coming up we're going to get the pulse of the people too. back in a moment....
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it's impossible to negotiate with speaker boehner because speaker boehner cannot negotiate with his own caucus. and that is the crux of the problem. i understand why senator mccain may want to try to make this a problem for the president that he went out there and talked about the need to get a deal done but i think he's got his focus on the wrong target if you will. >> and, chip, vice president biden certainly comes out looking almost glowing with this deal looking almost presidential. how does this burnish his 2016 bona fides should he decide to run? >> i think it helps him kind of show that he is a problem solver and was able to come in at the last moment and solve it. he is going to have a lot of natural help being the sitting vice president if he decides to run in 2016 but this kind of gives him a little bit of hey i can fix big problems and look back to this crisis and i came in and fixed it. >> and chris, john boehner definitely comes out of these negotiations looking weaker. notably he couldn't get his plan b through. does he have anything to fear on thursday when the house vote
it's impossible to negotiate with speaker boehner because speaker boehner cannot negotiate with his own caucus. and that is the crux of the problem. i understand why senator mccain may want to try to make this a problem for the president that he went out there and talked about the need to get a deal done but i think he's got his focus on the wrong target if you will. >> and, chip, vice president biden certainly comes out looking almost glowing with this deal looking almost presidential....
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he comes in here and he will talk with boehner. he won't talk with the other republicans. he hasn't built the trust. >> so has the president and the democrats, do you think they have done enough to build trust on the other side? >> i think so. i have been here 30 years now. this republican conference in the house is more hard edged, more hard to bid than has been true almost all the time i have been here. there has been in a sense a radicalization in the republican conference here in the house and it makes it very difficult to negotiate. the president has been talking with the speaker. he made an offer. it was essentially rejected by the speaker. he then comes up with another alternative. it is turned down by the conference that he is supposed to lead. i think all of that has made this a more difficult proposition. i think the president, he has offered cuts in spending essentially it has been very difficult to deal with this republican majority now in the house. and what i am hopeful of in this very, very critical last 48 hours is that the senate will act, they will find c
he comes in here and he will talk with boehner. he won't talk with the other republicans. he hasn't built the trust. >> so has the president and the democrats, do you think they have done enough to build trust on the other side? >> i think so. i have been here 30 years now. this republican conference in the house is more hard edged, more hard to bid than has been true almost all the time i have been here. there has been in a sense a radicalization in the republican conference here...
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if so, can speaker boehner come up with the votes to pass it? if not, what move might the speaker make knowing that time is running out? good morning. i'm mara schiavocampo on this first day of 2013. we've got a deal in the senate and now it's to the house. the republican conference will meet at 1:00 p.m. to strategize their way forward. the democrats in the house will meet at noon to figure out their move. nbc's luke russert joins us now live from capitol hill. he's following it all. luke, we understand that you've confirmed that a very special guest will be present when the democrats meet, when the house democrats meet. who is it going to be? >> that's right. for the first democratic caucus meeting of 2013 they'll hear from none other than vice president joe biden who will come here to capitol hill to brief them about the deal similar to what he did last night for his senate democratic faithful. he was really influential in helping get a lot of democrats to vote for the bill. it is expected he'll do the same thing today when he talks to his ho
if so, can speaker boehner come up with the votes to pass it? if not, what move might the speaker make knowing that time is running out? good morning. i'm mara schiavocampo on this first day of 2013. we've got a deal in the senate and now it's to the house. the republican conference will meet at 1:00 p.m. to strategize their way forward. the democrats in the house will meet at noon to figure out their move. nbc's luke russert joins us now live from capitol hill. he's following it all. luke, we...
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john boehner has something called "the boehner rule" which i think will become the new fiscal cliff key word. you want $1 in deficit increase, i want $1 in spending cuts. and the president is saying i'm not going to negotiate at all. so & that strikes in two months. un, that's-- somebody's going to have to give on that, and, you know, it could get really ugly really fast. >> woodruff: neil irwin, if you're looking at this economy right now and looking at this legislation, does it have an impact on the american economy ounemployment? >> so there are some mild negatives that come from the higher taxes, especially the payroll tax holiday we talked beven higher income tax rates ray negative for growth. that said, this economy has been plugging along. what steve is talking about are some really dangerous things. we're heading into another standoff over the debt ceiling. we all remember how that worked out in august 2011. it hurt business confidence. it floated the possibility of a federal government default. we had a credit downgrade of the u.s. credit rating. those were all things that unde
john boehner has something called "the boehner rule" which i think will become the new fiscal cliff key word. you want $1 in deficit increase, i want $1 in spending cuts. and the president is saying i'm not going to negotiate at all. so & that strikes in two months. un, that's-- somebody's going to have to give on that, and, you know, it could get really ugly really fast. >> woodruff: neil irwin, if you're looking at this economy right now and looking at this legislation,...
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you'd have to work with speaker boehner. the president was trying to work out this grand bargain with speaker boehner. but when they couldn't get it done and it collapsed, it pitched over to the senate. when it became clear it had to be a senate deal, mitch mcconnell has this historic relationship with the vice president because they worked in the senate for so many years together. they just know each other. it's not like they're great friends and they don't go around and vacation together but they know how to get deals done together. so when he needed what they call a dance partner, knew what they needed to horse trade and make it happen, that's who he turned to. he's just become an exceptional resource in the white house for getting deals done on capitol hill. >> we've got an eye on that door as well. you're looking at the same thing to make sure if the president comes out, we're all going to stop talking. for the next three big things happening, the dealt ceiling, the sequester, which this bill pushes off for two months,
you'd have to work with speaker boehner. the president was trying to work out this grand bargain with speaker boehner. but when they couldn't get it done and it collapsed, it pitched over to the senate. when it became clear it had to be a senate deal, mitch mcconnell has this historic relationship with the vice president because they worked in the senate for so many years together. they just know each other. it's not like they're great friends and they don't go around and vacation together but...
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you'd have to work with speaker boehner. the president was trying to work out this grand bargain with speaker boehner. but when they couldn't get it done and it collapsed, it pitched over to the senate. when it became clear it had to be a senate deal, mitch mcconnell has this historic relationship with the vice president because they worked in the senate for so many years together. they just know each other. it's not like they're great friends and they don't go around and vacation together but they know how to get deals done together. so when he needed what they call a dance partner, knew what they needed to horse trade and make it happen, that's who he turned to. he's just become an exceptional resource in the white house for getting deals done on capitol hill. >> we've got an eye on that door as well. you're looking at the same thing to make sure if the president comes out, we're all going to stop talking. for the next three big things happening, the dealt ceiling, the sequester, which this bill pushes off for two months,
you'd have to work with speaker boehner. the president was trying to work out this grand bargain with speaker boehner. but when they couldn't get it done and it collapsed, it pitched over to the senate. when it became clear it had to be a senate deal, mitch mcconnell has this historic relationship with the vice president because they worked in the senate for so many years together. they just know each other. it's not like they're great friends and they don't go around and vacation together but...
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john boehner is in really tough spot. talk about your thoughts on what he's got to be doing as far as the dance to please members of his party and try to work out a compromise. >> he's probably the person having the worst new year's eve of anybody in washington. he's got to contend with the fact he's going to need some democrats on board. he's got a caucus that doesn't like to go along with him. they don't really trust him think think he's a moderate and part of the establishment. they're looking for him to sell them out. he created more problems for himself by removing a few of those members from their committee assignment. that's part of what prompted their revolt on the plan b bill. it was kind of payback. he's made things worse for himself. it's a tough caucus to start with. many are not worried about a general election. their are worried about the primary. >> we are going to have to leave it there. sorry about that. we're just out of time. if there's a vote we'll bring that to you live. stay tuned to a special editio
john boehner is in really tough spot. talk about your thoughts on what he's got to be doing as far as the dance to please members of his party and try to work out a compromise. >> he's probably the person having the worst new year's eve of anybody in washington. he's got to contend with the fact he's going to need some democrats on board. he's got a caucus that doesn't like to go along with him. they don't really trust him think think he's a moderate and part of the establishment. they're...
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boehner did not say either way. we are also hear iing that as t bill came to them from the senate, he would also be a no. luke russert has been following this throughout the last 24 hours and all the things. you have with you the representative. >> you're a close ally of speaker boehner. what happened in conference today? what was so problematic with this bill? >> the difficulty is it's heavy on tax increases. the spending reductions are basically nonexistent and adds about $600 billion more in spending. >> where do we go from here? you think there will possibly be a vote tonight on an amended bill? >> the overwhelming consensus in the conference was that the leadership should go back, huddle, find an amendment that addressed spending in a responsible way. it's not going to be some amazingly huge package, but a token and symbol that is not the poison pill that does not drive the democrats off the wall. there was discussion about something that the president himself already suggested, to lay don't marker as we move f
boehner did not say either way. we are also hear iing that as t bill came to them from the senate, he would also be a no. luke russert has been following this throughout the last 24 hours and all the things. you have with you the representative. >> you're a close ally of speaker boehner. what happened in conference today? what was so problematic with this bill? >> the difficulty is it's heavy on tax increases. the spending reductions are basically nonexistent and adds about $600...
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john boehner obviously we know what happened last week. sifting through the wreckage of the plan "b." gone back to plan "a," a bill passed by the congress and extending tax cuts for everyone and sent to the senate. they don't expect the senate to take that. use that as a legislative vehicle and what's today? saturday. new year's eve is -- sorry. today's friday. too much holiday cheer. but come on. i mean -- >> he will be working the weekend. >> reporter: i am. oh my god. i don't want to get started on that. but anyway, you know, there's a lot at stake here. and, you know, it is late for this kind of thing to go on. and really, steve, i know you have been on board for this last several days, as well. most logical thing and perverse logic and chamber politics, any way to look at it is most logical thing is to go over and then come back to vote to cut taxes. but hey, you know, pride goeth before the fall. they could come up with a miraculous recovery. some sort of immaculate deal and may actually spur some conversations on the margins and may
john boehner obviously we know what happened last week. sifting through the wreckage of the plan "b." gone back to plan "a," a bill passed by the congress and extending tax cuts for everyone and sent to the senate. they don't expect the senate to take that. use that as a legislative vehicle and what's today? saturday. new year's eve is -- sorry. today's friday. too much holiday cheer. but come on. i mean -- >> he will be working the weekend. >> reporter: i am. oh...
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the house majority and their speaker, john boehner. we respond to innocent victims of natural disasters, not as republicans or democrats, but as americans, or at least we did until last night. >> jennifer: now criticism like that has prompted speaker boehner to change his tune. he now says that congress will take up that storm-relief package this week. coming us tonight from washington to talk about why congress did fail to act is andrew krol a reporter with "mother jones." andy welcome back. happy new year. >> happy new year to you too. >> jennifer: stenny holder says that eric cantor told him that he was 99.9% sure that a sandy package would in fact make it to the floor. and this was before last night. what happened? >> these -- this relief package for the victims of hurricane sandy, focusing on the damage in new york and new jersey was expected to be handled last night amidst all of the fiscal cliff drama, and about an hour before midnight as far as we know house speaker john boehner pulled the vote on this. he quietly said there wa
the house majority and their speaker, john boehner. we respond to innocent victims of natural disasters, not as republicans or democrats, but as americans, or at least we did until last night. >> jennifer: now criticism like that has prompted speaker boehner to change his tune. he now says that congress will take up that storm-relief package this week. coming us tonight from washington to talk about why congress did fail to act is andrew krol a reporter with "mother jones." andy...
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boehner's side. the republican congress knows that had he to put something on the floor and that are revenues were going to go up. they just don't want their fingerprints on it. there's going to be an enormous amount of republicans who want to vote no. he is in a bind. sfoo we talked about this before. this has been the least productive congress in history. it's certainly the most unpopular. i think the latest approval rating is something like 12%, and, you know, we talk about this triple threat, but there's a lot of other things on the pre president and congressional agenda. there are huge. things like immigration. things like the president who has said he wants to do gun control, and if i can, i want to read for you what jonathan wrote in new york magazine headlined "why is obama caving on tacks" noting that he campaigned successfully on tax hikes for those making above $250,000, he writes the erosion signals a major substantive problem in its own right, but it raises disturbing questions about oba
boehner's side. the republican congress knows that had he to put something on the floor and that are revenues were going to go up. they just don't want their fingerprints on it. there's going to be an enormous amount of republicans who want to vote no. he is in a bind. sfoo we talked about this before. this has been the least productive congress in history. it's certainly the most unpopular. i think the latest approval rating is something like 12%, and, you know, we talk about this triple...
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i think boehner is pretty safe because there's not a challenger. >> if john boehner is safe at his job, that doesn't seem to be at all relevant. isn't that right? >> i think that's right. but it's in large part because boehner couldn't get his plan through the house. i could only imagine how angry they are because they put him into this bind in which he has to negotiate with harry reid. and then it also gets house democrat support. all the while, he's got an eye when he's up for reelection. house speaker boehner has shown that he's largely, not entirely, but largely. remember, his deputies were both there with him when plan b was introduced. the logical successes aren't actually there. >> paul ryan is not the guy to watch, right? so paul ryan is the guy who has the real support of the house conservatives. a lot of people don't like boehner, they love paul ryan. now ryan, at the final minute, remember, he was with you for plan b. paul ryan, probably the most high profile guy, he's not running against boehner. he's not even interested. >> but robert, if the president gets this through, a
i think boehner is pretty safe because there's not a challenger. >> if john boehner is safe at his job, that doesn't seem to be at all relevant. isn't that right? >> i think that's right. but it's in large part because boehner couldn't get his plan through the house. i could only imagine how angry they are because they put him into this bind in which he has to negotiate with harry reid. and then it also gets house democrat support. all the while, he's got an eye when he's up for...
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you know, john boehner is going to have to take a big chance. the strategy all along, frankly on the part of the white house, and certain leaders in the senate was to simply box him in. remember, it was a week ago when john boehner put that bill on the floor, his so-called plan b, more than a week ago to raise taxes only on those individuals making more than a million dollars a year. obviously, that crashed and burned. and so the question if he couldn't get that through his gop caucus here in the house of representatives how on earth is he going to do something that sets that threshhold even lower? so really, the threshhold question, is john boehner as the republican speaker of the house going to allow a bill to pass of this magnitude with primarily democratic support? and i think that is an open question at this point. but the strategy all along was to sort of box him in. and have the senate -- you know, they get 70 senators on this point, it is bipartisans, democrats and republicans alike, then john boehner will have to go to his people and sa
you know, john boehner is going to have to take a big chance. the strategy all along, frankly on the part of the white house, and certain leaders in the senate was to simply box him in. remember, it was a week ago when john boehner put that bill on the floor, his so-called plan b, more than a week ago to raise taxes only on those individuals making more than a million dollars a year. obviously, that crashed and burned. and so the question if he couldn't get that through his gop caucus here in...
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we're not asking speaker boehner to endorse the president's proposal. we're not asking republicans to say they want to endoris the proposal. we're simply asking for a vote. we believe that republicans and democrats together could get a majority for the president's proposal to avoid the fiscal cliff and deal with the deficit in a balanced way. in fact, as we know, republicans like tom cole, a very conservative member from oklahoma, and others have said that that approach makes sense. and yet the speaker refuses to allow a vote on that proposal. and so allow democracy to work and so far unfortunately, speaker boehner has been held captive with the tea party wing of the republicans in the house, which voted down his own proposal just about a week ago, because he said, well, we should ask folks making over $1 million to pay more. his caucus said no. so what we're saying is, let the whole house, democrats and republicans, vote on the president's proposal. let democracy work its will. worst case scenario is that would be defeated. but you don't know until you
we're not asking speaker boehner to endorse the president's proposal. we're not asking republicans to say they want to endoris the proposal. we're simply asking for a vote. we believe that republicans and democrats together could get a majority for the president's proposal to avoid the fiscal cliff and deal with the deficit in a balanced way. in fact, as we know, republicans like tom cole, a very conservative member from oklahoma, and others have said that that approach makes sense. and yet the...
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speaker boehner also voted i. mike emmanuel mentioned the chairman of the did he have it and debt commission to deal with this did he have it and debt came out with a detailed statement. i'd like to read it here. quote, the deal is a missed opportunity to do something big to reduce our long term fiscal problems but it small step forward in our efforts to reduce the federal deficit following on the one trillion dollar did he have it? spending. both steps advance efforts to put our fiscal house in order neither done, nor -- one nor combination of the two come close to solving problems and loaders must have the courage to reform our tax code and entitlement program such that we put it on a downward path as a percent of the economy. washington missed this magic moment to do something big, recuse the deficit, reform our tax code and fiscal entitlement programs we've known over a year this fiscal cliff is coming. washington politicians set it up. forcing them selfs to deal with our nation's lng term fiscal problems. aft
speaker boehner also voted i. mike emmanuel mentioned the chairman of the did he have it and debt commission to deal with this did he have it and debt came out with a detailed statement. i'd like to read it here. quote, the deal is a missed opportunity to do something big to reduce our long term fiscal problems but it small step forward in our efforts to reduce the federal deficit following on the one trillion dollar did he have it? spending. both steps advance efforts to put our fiscal house...
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then again, we have john boehner, speaker of the house, has to control his own republican party. what happens if mcconnell and biden create a minimal deal and boehner can't sell it, then we're back to square one, which is failure. >> right. which boehner couldn't do with his plan b a couple of days ago. >> that's right. >> the question is, if some deal should be reached, i'm not expecting something that's overreaching, something large, is it short-term? >> very short-term. and then i'm sorry to be the dispenser of bad news, we have the whole fiscal cliff again with the fiscal reputation in terms of the borrowing maximum, the ceiling, which will come due in about a month where they have to raise the debt ceiling. you remember the president said, i'm not going to play that game anymore. unfortunately, he's going to play that game. so we'll have crisis number two, even if they solve this mini crisis today, or tomorrow. >> this white house fallback deal that senator reid is talking about pushing, if it comes to that, talk a little bit about this. >> that is the very minimal. what tha
then again, we have john boehner, speaker of the house, has to control his own republican party. what happens if mcconnell and biden create a minimal deal and boehner can't sell it, then we're back to square one, which is failure. >> right. which boehner couldn't do with his plan b a couple of days ago. >> that's right. >> the question is, if some deal should be reached, i'm not expecting something that's overreaching, something large, is it short-term? >> very...
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guest: i cannot read john boehner's mind. let's say the senate takes up something where you extend all the rates for a year but you increase the rates for people making $500,000. let's say that passes the senate. 75 votes. they sent it to the house. are republicans in the house going to be that obstinate if the senate sends that kind of signal? i do not think so. that is what a lot of us watch mitch mcconnell very closely. there are people in his caucus who early to vote for what i just said. can they get it on the floor and overcome the procedural hurdles? host: if nothing happens, what are we looking at? guest: january 3 at noon. there are so many scenarios. if the new congress convenes on the third, negotiations continue. democrats would have more strength. they have gained 7 or eight seats. i think the key if they go over the cliff will be the financial markets. if the market go into a panic and if the dow tumbles into free-fall wednesday, thursday, friday, i think we'll see something quickly. host: david lightman, thank
guest: i cannot read john boehner's mind. let's say the senate takes up something where you extend all the rates for a year but you increase the rates for people making $500,000. let's say that passes the senate. 75 votes. they sent it to the house. are republicans in the house going to be that obstinate if the senate sends that kind of signal? i do not think so. that is what a lot of us watch mitch mcconnell very closely. there are people in his caucus who early to vote for what i just said....
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speaker boehner? >> he has got a hard job, he has a hard job. >> certainly. >> he does. >> and you don't want it i guess if you had that opportunity. >> well, it is not an opportunity. >> not for you, not yet. >> he has got a tough job. and you know what? my sense of the speaker is that he wants to try to do the best for the country. this is not the deal he wants but he knows that it is i suppose the best deal he can get. it is not the deal i want, frankly i would advocate for significantly more revenues because i think that ultimately will be essential if we're going to balance or budget. but bottom line if he is willing to put this on the floor and give us an opportunity to vote yes or no then i give him the credit for do that. >> yeah, if you got the job you may start to cry, too, is what you're saying congressman peter welch, thank you. >> thank you. >> stay with us we'll have more on the vote on the house floor. when that happens we'll have that for you, too. [ male announcer ] the rhythm of life
speaker boehner? >> he has got a hard job, he has a hard job. >> certainly. >> he does. >> and you don't want it i guess if you had that opportunity. >> well, it is not an opportunity. >> not for you, not yet. >> he has got a tough job. and you know what? my sense of the speaker is that he wants to try to do the best for the country. this is not the deal he wants but he knows that it is i suppose the best deal he can get. it is not the deal i want,...
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so john boehner retains this gavel. is it -- why should he even want the -- i'm surprised he wants it. >> well, i think, perhaps, you know -- if we're going to look at the other side for a minute, maybe he's looking at this. yes, in a weakened state. but does this not give him an opportunity now to say, you know what, i tried it your way, far right. i'm going to take bills to the floor, even if they don't have majority republican house support. and really shoot for some grand compromises. maybe he does go back to the old school way of how he used to be, which was, you know, trying to strike the grand bargain and going across the aisle and such to get big issues done. frankly, it's going to be really hard to get issues like immigration, gun control -- >> it is. and i guess my question -- who talks to the white house? who will negotiate for the republican party on capitol hill? john boehner said it's not going to be him. >> exactly. john boehner actually said, i'm not going to have one-on-one meetings with the president a
so john boehner retains this gavel. is it -- why should he even want the -- i'm surprised he wants it. >> well, i think, perhaps, you know -- if we're going to look at the other side for a minute, maybe he's looking at this. yes, in a weakened state. but does this not give him an opportunity now to say, you know what, i tried it your way, far right. i'm going to take bills to the floor, even if they don't have majority republican house support. and really shoot for some grand compromises....
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mitch mcconnell has got to get on the same page as john boehner on the house 06 representatives. mcconnell is not going to walk the political bank. so a lot of variables here. the plan, all along, was for the senate to pass this thing and therefore, sort of box in the house. john boehner could present it to his gop conference, his conservatives and say, look, this is the only deal we can get. however, as you report it, it's quite clear now that technically, at least, we're going to be going over that cliff. the house, while they say they could call themselves back into session at any moment for all intense and purposes, they're gone until noon tomorrow. house leaders, their aides say tomorrow is a holiday and no one is going to feel an impact of this until later on in the week. but this is a dangerous game not only they're playing with the american economy and taxpayers, but a dangerous political game, as well. what do you know about the possibility that we could see the vice president on the hill tonight? >> if senate democrats would like the vice president to go over to the hil
mitch mcconnell has got to get on the same page as john boehner on the house 06 representatives. mcconnell is not going to walk the political bank. so a lot of variables here. the plan, all along, was for the senate to pass this thing and therefore, sort of box in the house. john boehner could present it to his gop conference, his conservatives and say, look, this is the only deal we can get. however, as you report it, it's quite clear now that technically, at least, we're going to be going...
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but i need to say something in support of speaker boehner. he's in a very, very difficult spot, and to a certain extent, given the dynamics of the three-way negotiations or four-way, maybe, both the republicans and the democrats became somewhat irrelevant in this process, and it's really risky what he has done to basically to agree to bring this thing to the floor when so many of his conference don't like it. so, i actually give him credit because i think he's taken a pretty courageous stand, even if he wasn't a very powerful player in negotiating it. >> congressman johnar muth, good to see you. thanks. >> good to see you, chris, thanks. >> up next, the fiscal cliff and you. what the deal struck last night by the senate means for your bottom line. >>> plus, we'll also have the latest on secretary of state hillary clinton's condition. she continues to get treatment for a blood clot in a new york hospital. >>> and then later, coming to a theater near you. the new movies hitting the big screen in 2013. which will be the blockbusters and which wo
but i need to say something in support of speaker boehner. he's in a very, very difficult spot, and to a certain extent, given the dynamics of the three-way negotiations or four-way, maybe, both the republicans and the democrats became somewhat irrelevant in this process, and it's really risky what he has done to basically to agree to bring this thing to the floor when so many of his conference don't like it. so, i actually give him credit because i think he's taken a pretty courageous stand,...